kham
167 posts
Nov 30, 2019
8:16 AM
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I'm looking to practice some 12th position songs. Any recordings out there I could use to practice would be greatly appreciated. 12th position christmas songs would also be welcome as it is that time of year. Thanks!
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Sundancer
306 posts
Nov 30, 2019
9:51 AM
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The Beatles’ Yesterday is great fun in 12th. Try Grey Owl’s version - he gets the fills nicely.
Here’s a version with tabs: https://youtu.be/Y73n9J4gf3A
And his more recent version: https://youtu.be/x2k4nOxI_ts
And check out the movie Yesterday. It may be heresy to say it on a blues oriented site, but the world would be a lesser place without the music of John, Paul, George & Ringo.
Last Edited by Sundancer on Nov 30, 2019 12:08 PM
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The Iceman
3974 posts
Nov 30, 2019
2:16 PM
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12th position = great for not blues...."Somewhere Over the Rainbow", for example....
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The Iceman
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SuperBee
6341 posts
Nov 30, 2019
3:17 PM
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I checked Grey Owl’s tab; That is how Christelle encouraged me to approach the song. She was advocating I do it for bend practice.
I did.
I think it helped in its way.
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Sundancer
307 posts
Nov 30, 2019
3:54 PM
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hola Super Bb. This version is bendier than the Pacific Coast Highway just south of Carmel. So probably not the way you’d play it in a show. Superb bending practice though.
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SuperBee
6342 posts
Nov 30, 2019
5:10 PM
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Ah, the bendy coast road! Sundancer, you taunt me with dream imagery
Yeah I think CB was keen on it, as it moves from 3 semitone bend to the 3 whole tone bend in a couple places.
Superbe! Bb bending practice (and A, F etc)
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SuperBee
6343 posts
Nov 30, 2019
5:12 PM
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12th position blues Kham.
There is a nice video of Madcat Ruth playing Nobody Knows You in G on a D harp. It’s fun.
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LFLISBOA
61 posts
Dec 02, 2019
4:28 AM
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David Burgin "Animal Walk" would fit 12th position (he doesn't overblow). Carlos Del Junco recorded many songs in 12th position, but would require lots of practice (at least to me)
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Martin
1621 posts
Dec 02, 2019
6:49 AM
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You can set your teeth in "When you wish upon a star". I´ve never been terribly fond of the hole 5 OB (I play OOTB harps) and try to avoit it in a descending line.
Of course, there are special tunings to simplify things, but 12th is an interesting option if your bends are reasonably tamed.
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Jim Rumbaugh
1337 posts
Dec 03, 2019
7:22 PM
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Georgia
here's a link to a tab I did.
Sheet1 Title,GEORGIA IN 12 TH POSITION ON DIATONIC HARMONICA Rhythm 4/4,Tempo,SLOW SHUFFLE DISCLAIMER,THIS IS MY INTERPRETATION, THE ORIGINAL SONG IS NOT EXACTLY LIKE THIS, OTHER VARIATIONS EXIST 1,2 1,2,3,4,1 VERSE -6,7,-,-,-,-,-,X,-6,6 GEORGIA,GEORGIA 5,6 1,2,3,4,1 -6,7,8,-,-,-8,-6,7 OLD,SWEET...
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theharmonicaclub.com (of Huntington, WV)
Last Edited by Jim Rumbaugh on Dec 03, 2019 7:27 PM
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Jim Rumbaugh
1338 posts
Dec 04, 2019
5:43 AM
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FWIW
12th position does not have an easy flat 7th a.k.a. the dominant 7th, like the 5 draw in second position. That makes finding "Blues tunes" more difficult.
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theharmonicaclub.com (of Huntington, WV)
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ridge
773 posts
Dec 04, 2019
8:11 AM
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Kham - are you familiar with 12th position or are you looking for a way to break into 12th?
I find these kinds of requests interesting. If you know your major scale or minor pentatonic in a given position you should be able to transpose a known song/bass line/riff into another position. Even if you can't actually PLAY the scale, it's a good mental exercise/written exercise.
Not specifically trying to call you out, but I am curious how others approach this as I am of the general belief there are not a lot of players who make this logical step on their own.
Similar to another post I shared, if you just focus on playing a major triad over the I/IV/V you can come up with the outline of rhumba type groove
So if you were playing in 1st position
+1 +2 +3 (I Chord - 1st Position)
2" 3"' +4 (IV Chord - 12th Position)
-2 -3 -4 (V Chord - 2nd Position)
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Ridge's YouTube
Last Edited by ridge on Dec 04, 2019 8:13 AM
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